The stories behind
the numbers
Join Financial Innovation and Resilience (FIRE) practitioner Lucía Carrasco to explore the untold stories of finance leaders working for social justice around the world.
Behind the audits, the spreadsheets, donor relationships and financial management, these leaders are rethinking what organizational resilience really means. Each episode, we sit down with them to hear what they’re actually trying—building capital reserves, rebounding from catastrophic funding losses, scaling sustainably, and everything in between.
Whether you're leading an organization, balancing a budget, or brand new to the team, you'll find the perspective you need to resource and steward the change you're working toward. We'll laugh through the learning moments and leave the loneliness of doing this alone behind.
Plus, we broadcast in English, French, Portuguese, and Spanish—because game-changing ideas should reach as many people as possible.
What does it take to sustain an organization’s work for the long run when the community it serves can’t afford to wait? And how can building capital reserves help protect not only an organization’s financial health, but the rights, livelihoods, and sovereignty of half a million indigenous people?
In this episode, Lucía sits down with Immaculate Mutheu, Finance Specialist at Friends of Lake Turkana (FoLT), an Indigenous women-led organization in Kenya working to protect Lake Turkana, Africa's fourth-largest lake, and the half a million Indigenous people whose lives depend on it. Imma shares how FoLT moved beyond the “starvation cycle” of grant funding to build operating and change capital reserves. Drawing on 16 years of experience, Imma explores how finance leaders can make the case for capital reserves, negotiate with donors, manage risk, and build the financial resilience needed to keep showing up for their communities.
*Immaculate appears in this episode in her personal capacity. The opinions she expresses in this podcast are her personal views.
Lucía has spent over 15 years at the intersection of human rights, gender justice, and resource mobilization—working with women's funds, corporate foundations, and civil society organizations worldwide.
She leads the Financial Innovation and Resilience (FIRE) program at Spring, where she's accompanied more than 400 organizations in building real financial strength. She is currently the treasurer on FERN’s Board of Directors.
When she's not working, you'll find her at the pottery wheel, hunting for textiles, or chasing warmer weather.
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Since 2012, Spring's Financial Innovation and Resilience (FIRE) program has supported leadership teams from over 500 social and climate justice organizations in more than 70 countries to build greater financial strength. Past participants have described FIRE as "a bridge between powerful vision and practical strategies".
Through this internationally acclaimed program, organizations learn the essentials of financial resilience and explore innovative tools and strategies to adapt to increasingly volatile political and funding landscapes.
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